Wednesday, September 14, 2005

You Are an Atheist, so SHUT UP ALREADY.

You say, "well, I'm not 100% atheist, because I can't prove that god exists, so technically, etc.but I don't believe in any gods..."

STOP. Did you hear yourself? You just said "I don't believe in any gods..."

YOU ARE AN ATHEIST.

Don't get all excited. So what if you think you cannot prove it, or you don't know it? Fine. BE an agnostic.

BUT YOU'RE STILL AN ATHEIST.

How many times do I have to say this? Look inside yourself, for want of a better phrase. Is there a belief in God there? Yes? Then you're a theist. No? Can't find any? Then you're an atheist. Don't tell me you don't know if you believe or not. Your beliefs are not hidden inside, lurking behing some grey tissue.

For fuck's sakes, answer the question! Do you believe or not? NO no no buh buh buh buh.....I didn't ask you to tell me anything about proof or knowledge or chances or any of that. I ASKED you if you BELIEVE. You don't believe, you are an atheist. Simple.

Atheism is about BELIEF. Agnosticism is about knowledge. A person isn't "an" agnostic. A person is agnostic towards something, would be a better way of putting it.


Do you believe or not? Honestly, if only the word "agnostic" had never been coined. If Huxley saw the uses of his terms today, he'd be "rolling over in his grave."

I don't believe that either.

21 comments:

breakerslion said...

Three of the slipperiest words in the English language: could, should, and deserve. There "could" be a god... and pigs "could" be waaay smarter than humans and just extremely lazy and suicidal... and "if Huxley could see..." then presumably he could roll over too! :-)

Roger Lordblessed said...

The fool hath said in his heart, there is no god...

Aaron Kinney said...

You always have the coolest pictures for your blog entries!

Aaron Kinney said...

Roger Lordblessed:

Whoever sayeth thou fool is in danger of hellfire.

Ever read that Bible verse? Fool.

Roger Lordblessed said...

Aaron Kinney that portion of the Bible has been corrupted. God never licensed the so-called "New Testament". God speaks through other Holy Books but not through that one.

The Lord licensed us to call fools as we see them. God has been made manifest in this age and all those who will not wake up are in danger od Hellfire. Do you know how long an eternity in Hell will last? Do you know how much pain you will suffer? It's not worth it Aaron Kinney there is another path -- the path of the Lord!

The Necklace Lady said...

I used to say I was agnostic. Then someone said, "how wishy washy. Pick a team!" Fine. I'm an atheist.

Hellbound Alleee said...

Necklace Lady,

See, that wasn`t my point. You can be both. As I said, atheism is about belief, agnosticism is about knowledge. You can say "Ì don`t KNOW that God doesn`t exist, but I don`t BELIEVE in it."

Personally, if the agnostic is right, and one CAN'T know, then there is no reason to believe. Atheist.

Mr. Lordblessed,

Whoever wrote the verse thinks I am a fool. Have you not noticed from my blog that I am an atheist? Where in your head tells you that I would find anything written by an evangelist in scripture important? I repeat: I am an atheist. The bible also says will suffer forever with worms in my stomach. Why did you not write that verse?

The fool hath said: "there is a big man in the sky that watches over us and has a big list of ten things we must not do, and if we do, then we will go to a scary place with fire and demons, especially if we have sex wrong. and this big man made a man out of clay and a Perfect Place where there are magic trees and temping serpants and he had to kill everything he made because he screwed it up."

There's your fool, Mr. Lordblessed. The one that can't make a man worth a damn.

The Necklace Lady said...

Alleee....
My favorite verse is the one about taking a disobedient child to the edge of town and stoning him to death. Too late for my grown-up kids. Think anybody could get away with that one?

Roger Lordblessed said...

Alleee you raise some good points but I think I can see where you go wrong. First of all we can tell that the Bible is true through prayer. When you are finished with your Bible you must ask God if it is true and the Lord will reveal it to you in a still small voice. This God has revealed to me - to us all. You can tell that the Bible has been corrupted for their is pain in God's voice. You can tell the world is on the wrong track -- everyone knows it.

People preach that God is omnipotent but this is not Biblical. God is a mighty force in the land -- but God cannot defeat human pride or human sin. God came into the world 2000 years ago to put an end to sin --- but god failed. God was betrayed. There are so many errors and mistakes in the world - but all I can say is that when God made this world the Lord was without experience. This was the second world the Lord made and the first was without life. That is the world you see in sky. This new world is God's first attempt to breathe life into clay - I believe it! How can God know what will work without trying it out first? This proves that God is a true scientist. We are living in the mind and body of God.

God has revealed dissatisfaction to me. God has revealed that the current age will soon end and that a new world will be create from within. This is a glorious gospel! That is why we must pray to God and seek Her wisdom. She is the cosmic mother - and the new birth will be brought in with pain! But God will keep all humans that She favors and abide with them in the arms of Lord. There will be a place a safety for us. But all who mock the Lord will be left behind in the ruins of the world, screaming in startled madness, watching the chaos unfold - dead to all hope! That is why I must raise my voice and praise the Lord and sanctify the Lord and heal the enemies of the Lord - before its too late! God really has a plan this time and you can be part of it!

Hellbound Alleee said...

Roger,

You are really a wacky guy! I`ll give you that.

If I pray real real hard, (guess those 12 years I did that weren't good enough) God will reveal himself, and then Jesus will come back with a sword in his mouth, and will press all the bad guys with this giant wine press while these scorpions with lion heads and women's hair play catch with an asteroid that poisons the water supply.

"And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth." Guess that's not "biblical" enough.

Hellbound Alleee said...

As I say in my next post, it's much better to be an atheist. I think other people should be atheists as well. If I didn't, I wouldn't have The HEllbound Alleee Program, would I?

breakerslion said...

Didja ever notice how often people project their own deficiencies onto other people?

fool n.
1. One who is deficient in judgment, sense, or understanding.

Like someone who believes in talking snakes and immaculate conception and an invisible overlord who creates all the rules of physics and then runs around breaking them

2. One who acts unwisely on a given occasion: I was a fool to have quit my job.

Or: I was a fool to give all that money to Pat Robertson

3. One who has been tricked or made to appear ridiculous; a dupe: They made a fool of me by pretending I had won.

Or: They made a fool of me by pretending to have a rational world view to give me

One who subverts convention or orthodoxy or varies from social conformity in order to reveal spiritual or moral truth: a holy fool.

That would be a definition that, ironically, would apply to an atheist

A dessert made of stewed or puréed fruit mixed with cream or custard and served cold.

That would be a definition of something with more substance than the invisible big alpha-daddy in the sky

Archaic. A mentally deficient person; an idiot.

As in one who prefers the world-view of ignorant, barely-civilized desert-dwellers to the entire body of scientific knowledge gained since.

If I am wrong, may I be struck by lightning, because "everyone knows" that lightning comes from God's giant bicycle generator!

Hellbound Alleee said...

I am a fool. A fool for love.

Roger Lordblessed said...

Isn't there a fool to reason to? Isn't reason so-called an idol the Lord has commanded us to break? The so-called omnipotent or reason god is no Biblical god -- this God is the last of the Greek pagan gods, the God Logos or Verbum. Verbum becomes word or worm - illustrating the dangerousness of letting this word worm into your heart. The mind is a slate for the creation of the heart's vision - and the Lord god is the painter on that canvas. When we set up false human wisdom we are painting our own destrution. The wisdom of this world is totally false.

Alleee your book of revelations is not Biblical! The entire New Testament is a total fraud and this has been shown by the revelation of God in our time! Maybe the reason your prayers failed is that you were prating to the false god. I prayed for your years to the false god Jesus who is the person of that Greek Logos idol I mentioned earlier - hence the widespread sodomizing of Jesus's friends and the church to this day! The true God was Jesus's mother Mary who Jesus denied multiple times thus proving himself to be a liar and a false idol! This Mary our god is now born again as Sara to reign over us until the end times! This is a glorious advent! Our Sara has taught us that the fallacy of Christ is truly the "phallogos" or penis verbum or cockworm which descended with Christ and all our woe. This period was the fall of God -- brought on by the deception of this dark christ. That is why there is rejoicing at the reprise of the True Lord Sara! Sara makes saucy claims and if false would be the most evil liar I ever had met - yet she proved herself to be a kind and gentle servant to all mankind! She has tried to make contact with you Alleee but has grown discouraged and sent us her servants to entreat you further. Alleee it will prove very impossible for you to dispute her claims! I have given everything to her: my faith, my home - I have even undergone the true Biblical and total circumcision demanded of her to restore my Sacred Feminine! Alleee - only a woman can comprehend the need to destroy the rational cult and become as one with the fluid Lord! Man gave us nothing but phallos, science, and death - but the female doctrine promises restoration and compassion.

For further information please check out our Lord's blog at jesusdog.blogspot.com, my blog, Maida's blog, or the website of Rev. Arnott, who was one of Sara's first disciples (sadly passed away to a happier land):

http://www.bare-jesus.net/

You are on an amazing journey to intellectual discovery and faith restoration, Alleee! Maybe you will want to join us at our Temple compound some day in Thailand - we are working daily miracles here! I have been cured of the disease that poisoned my soul and declarified my mind. Praise the Lord!

(I'm always happy to debate scripture with you Alleee and friends. I have the Author of the these verse right by my side!)

Hellbound Alleee said...

Hello Hashishan Prophet`s sockpuppet:

I find it very sad when people are not atheists. It breaks my heart when people`s minds are destroyed, and fight against reality.

I am not interested in you or your personalities anymore, Hashishan. I`m sorry for you, but please don`t bother posting here anymore.

Hellbound Alleee said...

She really got me again.

Here's what happens: every time I delete one of her posts, she comes back as a different personality. It's just that I'm really, really, bored with it. I wouldn't mind a real believer, but I just have no interest in this nonsense. No more Hashishan, no more Hashishan sockpuppets.

Aaron Kinney said...

Roger Lordblessed is NOT A CHRISTIAN! **sirens and red flashing lights**

He just dismissed the entire new testament as a fraud! That makes him a Jew I think, or maybe a TedJesusChristGod as Alleee alluded to.

Wow. These nutjobs are totally crazy. Why is rationalism so elusive to so many humans? I think I sometimes give my species too much credit. Sigh...

breakerslion said...

Ok, this is Really weird, and I am NOT implying that it is anything but a bizarre coincidence, but I have to share this. The same day I make a joke about "May I be struck by lightning, and lightning coming from God's bicycle generator, my next-door neighbor's house gets struck by lightning and it starts an electrical fire in the basement. My house and his started out with the same floor plan, but he has added on. You don't suppose that the all-powerful, and all-knowing you-know-who got the wrong address? :-) I swear I'm not making this up!

Rev. Barking Nonsequitor said...

Why is it that all these righteous folks never learned the meaning of BREVITY.

Anyway, more on point, I can not tell you how many people I meet that are "not religous" and yet they don't want to call themselves "Atheist". They just don't want a label. It's extremely basic: If you cannot say you believe in a god then you are Atheist - sorry, in this world you are always something to somebody. Unfortunately, by avoiding the issue most people seem to assume you are a believer - at least they do in Jezusland.

Also, I'm really tired of hearing "the fool and hith heart" cliche'- so you know what? Go fuck yourself.!

Rev. Barking Nonsequitor said...

A comment on breakerslion and lightening. As an electrical engineer and former lightening researcher I am totally shocked that God made a mistake an picked out your neighbor instead! Bless you.

Homes get struck by lightening all the time, usually resulting in little to no damage if the electrical grounding system is intact and in good working order. Poor workmanship, corrosion, or careless remodeling can damage the ground in your home and it fails to direct the hit into the ground. Much of the energy is directed into the dwelling destroying appliances, causing fires and injuring people.

Praying has absolutely no effect of course, but having a beer instead may give one more enjoyment.

breakerslion said...

Rev,

Thanks for the info. I will check the condition of my grounding rod. I think you nailed the cause of my neighbor's misfortune with "careless remodeling". His addition is right where the chimney ground used to be and includes a full cellar.

You also nailed it with the beer comment. I had a cold 12-pack of Becks in the trunk when I rounded the corner to see 5 fire trucks parked on my lawn. Duh, you must be psychic! ;-)